VT Director of Elections Testifies to How Easy Mail in Ballot Fraud Is

At the January 14 meeting of the Senate Government Operations Committee, Senator Brian Collamore (R-Rutland) asked Vermont Director of Elections, Will Senning, about a woman arrested for election fraud in Texas. The story in question involved on Raquel Rodriquez who was caught engaging in "election fraud, illegal voting, unlawfully assisting people voting by mail and unlawfully possessing an official ballot.” Collamore wanted to know if similar actions, if they occurred in Vermont, could be detected and prosecuted.

For a specific example, the senator asked, “If I were to have filled out my wife’s ballot, and/or my son’s, which arrived without them asking for it… what security measures are in place now whereby we could even know that, let alone remedied it, and prosecuted me, quite frankly.”

Senning responded (watch the video at the 1:49:00 mark), “It’s 100% a fair question, Senator Collamore, and if you were willing to forge the signature of your wife and/or your son – so you fill out their ballot for them, put it in that certificate envelope, and sign their name for them in some kind of manner that you plan will not be noticed by your town clerk as looking too much like your signature… it’s likely that that ballot will get processed and that your wife and/or son would be checked off the checklist as having voted at that point. The most significant check there… is then if your wife or son showed up to vote on election day, their name would be checked off the check list because the clerks are very diligent about keeping track of who they’ve received a ballot back from. That’s where questions would start to be raised and the issue would start to be looked into at that point. We had instances of that this year…. But it’s really that one ballot for one voter that brings that to light at the time of the election. You can’t get the vote back, but you can at least potentially go and prosecute the person for voting on another person’s ballot.”

This is problematic on so many levels.

  • Senning admits that if someone filled out a ballot for another person, it would be processed and counted. There is no signature verification in Vermont, so even if, as Senning said, the signature looked suspicious odds are very much against any sort of challenge. Later he testified on another question about spoiled ballots, “Signed is signed, whether it matches your name on the official checklist on not.” (2:04:00 in response to Ram’s questions about names matching.) You could sign you ballot "Donald Duck" and it won't be challenged. 

 

  • The only real clue that something is amiss is if the real voter shows up on election day only to find out that a ballot has already been cast in their name. Senning testified, “We had instances of that this year.” We need to know exactly how many instances! But more importantly, this clearly illustrates that if someone fills out a fraudulent ballot in the name of a NON-voter, there is no chance whatsoever the fraud would be detected. There is no mechanism in place to detect fraud of this kind.

 

  • Senning admits fraudulent votes were counted in this election. “You can’t get the vote back, but you can at least potentially go and prosecute the person for voting on another person’s ballot.” So, We had instances of detected double voting in one person’s name occur and an admission that the fraudulent votes were not – indeed could not be – removed from the total vote count. How many? And who was attempting to commit fraud? The voter on the checklist trying to vote twice, once by mail and once in person, or someone who stole the ballot of a legitimate voter? How are these investigations going and how many does Senning believe will actually end with a prosecution?

These huge gaps in security only address one example of potential fraud. The other things that the woman from Texas engaged in – bribing someone to vote a certain way, “unlawfully assisting” people to vote, etc. – could not be detected, remedied, and prosecuted either. How can we have faith in election outcomes when this is the case?

- Rob Roper is president of the Ethan Allen Institute. 

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  • Beverly Stone
    commented 2021-01-22 17:36:57 -0500
    One local woman who was interviewed by Channel 3 News received ballots for people who had long since not lived at her address. Judicial Watch found incidences of more than 100% voter registration in 29 states including Vermont. The system is NOT working. https://www.judicialwatch.org/press-releases/new-jw-study-voter-registration/
  • H Brooke Paige
    commented 2021-01-19 22:57:34 -0500
    All these problem are magnified when the state conducts an election using “universal vote-by-mail” instead of the mandated mailing of all early and absentee ballots on request, by the town (or city) clerks. By following the law, instead of ignoring the law as Secretary of State Condos did in the General Election last fall, the voter requests a ballot from the town clerk – the voter is then expecting to receive the ballot by mail AND the clerk is anticipating that ballot to be returned by the voter. The opportunity for wholesale fraud is negligent under this (the lawful) scenario.
  • Christian M
    commented 2021-01-19 13:56:26 -0500
    We probably need to get some of the data you asked for in your last paragraph before jumping to any conclusions on the extent or effect of voter fraud.

    Unfortunately, signature-matching has its own host of issues – https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/10/signature-matching-is-the-phrenology-of-elections/616790/.
  • Christian M
    commented 2021-01-19 13:56:26 -0500
    We probably need to get some of the data you asked for in your last paragraph before jumping to any conclusions on the extent or effect of voter fraud.

    Unfortunately, signature-matching has its own host of issues – https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/10/signature-matching-is-the-phrenology-of-elections/616790/.
  • Rob Roper
    published this page in EAI Blog 2021-01-18 14:59:57 -0500